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Why no meeting with Residents before Public Ad goes out?
Will Part 8 submissions be available as with normal planning applications and not just submission summaries?
Why is the Part 8 only looking at bricks and mortar and not including the community aspect?
Why are the Councillors being ignored?
The same funding amount of €240,000 was allocated to Killincarrig for the improvement scheme previous to this which covered more area than the newly proposed plans. Since the scope has shifted, where will the additional funding go?
What are the future Part 8 plans for Killincarrig, and can we get those intentions in writing along with a timeline of when they will be implemented?
We understand that a visual impact test of sorts will be run for the windmills located kms off the coast of Greystones, but when we repeatedly requested viability tests for the businesses impacted by the Part 8, we were told that the government is not responsible for running impact tests. Could you explain how the view of windmills off in the distance carries more importance than if businesses can survive having their parking removed?
The parking along the R761 is historically established for the residents and businesses there. By removing it, where do you propose 12 cars park?
The proposed bike lane travels downhill along a dangerous area of low visibility, cars exiting blindly from driveways with high walls, and along front doors that open nearly directly out onto the street. Have any safety measures been looked at to protect pedestrians, cyclists, residents, and motorists?
It was mentioned people will walk and cycle to the businesses in Killincarrig but given the nature of the 5 beauty and hair businesses this would deem not viable, would you not agree?
Also there is nowhere to park bikes in Killincarrig.
The previous plans showed bike lanes across driveways with bollards- has that issue been addressed in the new plans?
Several residents are concerned that with the narrowing of the roadway and their driveways being so narrow that they will be forced into the oncoming lane upon exiting in order to make a wide enough turn to clear their exits. Residents are also concerned about the traffic stopped at the lights blocking them from exiting their drives.
Was that taken into consideration with the new plans, and if not, why?
We greatly appreciate the loading bay being left in the plans, and we request that clear signage and road markings indicate that the temporary parking area is for unloading and loading only. Will those be provided in road upgrades?
How many parking spaces will be maintained on castle villas ? The previous plans reduced the amount to 16 from 20.
Previously on the northern part of the R761 road there was a pedestrian crossing, will this be included in the new plans?
We are representing the residents and the business of our village are asking Wcc to consider this to save our local businesses and the viability of our village. We are talking about people and their homes which they will be living in for life. This is not a matter to be taken lightly.
The Cherry Orchard MON14AUG23
e first broke the news about a WCC improvement scheme for Killincarrig back in May 2020.
There was a generally positive response, but there were concerns too about how much of the village would remain the village.
And how easy it would be for people to get out of their driveways.
By December 2022, the plans were online, revealing the village geometry, the AA screening report, the EIA screening report, and whatever you’re having yourself.
And then, silence. Until now, as the newly-named Killincarrig Enhancement Scheme gets ready to roll, with planning permission no.23644 filed just this week. It reads…
carry out works in Killincarrig village to provide improved pedestrian facilities and public realm improvements. The works will take place along the R761 Lower Kindlestown Road and at the junction with Carrig Villas. The enhancement scheme includes for signalised junction, new footpaths, new zebra crossing, improved junction layouts, improved footpaths, cycle climbing lane, a loading bay in front of commercial properties, and realignment of road carriageway
Submissions are due September 12th, with the decision due on October 3rd. In the meantime, the scheme is up online as part of Wicklow County Council’s Consultation Hub here.
At the most Greystones Municipal District meeting, Conor Page, senior executive engineer at Wicklow County Council, explained that approval for the scheme didn’t happen in 2022 not having “the report completed within the required timeframe”. Page also explained that some changes had been made to the original plans, including the removal of a shared footpath/cycle lane. The road at Carrig Villas was also removed from the plans, on the basis that it warranted a scheme of its own, whilst additional greening had been included, with the scheme – which initially covered Lower Kindlestown Road and the junction at The Orchard – now being extended northbound to include the Delgany Wood entrance.
The councillors present pointed out that there had been concerns by residents, with some, said Cllr Tom Fortune, fearing the village would be “sanitised”. The reduction of parking spaces to 16 along with two disabled spots was seen as a blow to both residents and businesses.
Spearheading these concerns is the Killincarrig Community Association, who asked us to put some questions to Greystones’ town engineer Ruairi O’Hanlon.
He, in turn, sent them on to Maura Campbell, communications office, active travel at Wicklow County Council…
KCA: Why the name change from Improvement to Enhancement?
|MC: Both titles have been used for the scheme over the years.
Why no meeting with Residents before Public Ad goes out?
District Engineer, District Administrator, Active Travel Engineer, Cllr Walsh and Cllr Stokes met with representatives from the residents committee on 13th April 2023.
Will there be any changes to Part 8 details after Public Consultation?
A Part 8 report will be prepared following the public consultation and this will consider the submissions and make a recommendation on the project.
Will Part 8 submissions be available as with normal planning applications and not just submission summaries?
Submissions are included as an addendum to the report.
Why is the Part 8 only looking at bricks and mortar and not including the community aspect?
The Part 8 planning permission is for development as set out in the Planning & Development Regs 2001 (as amended).
Why are the Councillors being ignored?
There has been consultation with Councillors in the development of the scheme and at the last district meeting, the Councillors voted in favour of the proposal to put the scheme out to Part 8.
The December 2022 pitch
The same funding amount of €240,000 was allocated to Killincarrig for the improvement scheme previous to this which covered more area than the newly proposed plans. Since the scope has shifted, where will the additional funding go?
The NTA have allocated €240k for the scheme for 2023 under the Active Travel Investment Grant Programme. Additional funding is to be provided by Wicklow County Council through the LPT.
What are the future Part 8 plans for Killincarrig, and can we get those intentions in writing along with a timeline of when they will be implemented?
Following on from the publication of the Greystones Transport Study, it is anticipated that a future plan will be developed for the Castle Villas/Carrig Villas/New Road area but the Council do not have a plan that is ready to go at this stage.
We understand that a visual impact test of sorts will be run for the windmills located kms off the coast of Greystones, but when we repeatedly requested viability tests for the businesses impacted by the Part 8, we were told that the government is not responsible for running impact tests. Could you explain how the view of windmills off in the distance carries more importance than if businesses can survive having their parking removed?
One of the aims of this scheme is to create a village centre than is safer and more appealing for local residents to walk or cycle to. This will not only have a positive effect on the local businesses, but will also help encourage a modal shift from private vehicles to more sustainable modes of transport, thus helping the Country reach carbon reduction targets.
Will the new plans encroach in any way on private property as the previous plans did, and- if so- would you be contacting the owners of the private property before or during public consultation? Note that previously no private owners were contacted.
The current design does not include a requirement for private land take.
The parking along the R761 is historically established for the residents and businesses there. By removing it, where do you propose 12 cars park?
Parking which currently occurs along the southern section of the scheme is illegal.
Out with the old… Killincarrig 18JULY23
The proposed bike lane travels downhill along a dangerous area of low visibility, cars exiting blindly from driveways with high walls, and along front doors that open nearly directly out onto the street. Have any safety measures been looked at to protect pedestrians, cyclists, residents, and motorists?
The cycle track travels uphill and provides a safe refuge for cyclist struggling up the steep hill without the pressure of cars behind them. The front doors of the houses open to a narrow private space before existing onto the public footpath before the cycle track is present.
It was mentioned people will walk and cycle to the businesses in Killincarrig but given the nature of the 5 beauty and hair businesses this would deem not viable, would you not agree?
Hasn’t changed a bit…
One of the aims of the scheme is to encourage local residents to walk and cycle to the village. Private and public parking is available there for those that do choose to drive. Bicycle parking can be incorporated into the scheme. It can also be provided by private businesses.
Also there is nowhere to park bikes in Killincarrig.
Bicycle parking can be incorporated into the scheme. It can also be provided by private businesses.
The previous plans showed bike lanes across driveways with bollards- has that issue been addressed in the new plans?
Bollards will not be placed in front of private vehicular accesses. The Part 8 drawings are preliminary designs. More accurate drawings will be prepared as part of the detail design process.
Several residents are concerned that with the narrowing of the roadway and their driveways being so narrow that they will be forced into the oncoming lane upon exiting in order to make a wide enough turn to clear their exits. Residents are also concerned about the traffic stopped at the lights blocking them from exiting their drives. 
What measures have been taken to ensure that residents can safely exit their driveways in this new road layout?
The road will be narrowed where it is currently excessively wide. This will help reduce traffic speeds and make the road safer. We are not aware of any issues with vehicles exiting their driveways. Specific concerns can be reviewed as part of the detail design. Traffic will only be stopped for short periods when pedestrians want to cross the road, or a vehicle wants to exit Carrig Villas and or Cherry Orchard Lane.
It was suggested that the southeastern corner of the junction between the R761 and Castle Villas could be left soft as it is to allow for a smaller turn radius of larger vehicles and trucks, shrinking the size necessary of the yellow box at the head of Castle Villas and saving one valuable parking space.
Killincarrig 1880-1900
Was that taken into consideration with the new plans, and if not, why?
It unclear as to what is meant by the corner of the junction being left ‘soft.’ If it is referring to a section that could be driven over by vehicles, this would not be considered suitable at this junction as it could lead to conflict between vehicles turning and pedestrians who are waiting to cross the road. Notwithstanding this, the junction will be designed in accordance with the standards set out in DMURS and other relevant design standards.
We greatly appreciate the loading bay being left in the plans, and we request that clear signage and road markings indicate that the temporary parking area is for unloading and loading only. Will those be provided in road upgrades?
Loading bay signage will be provided.
We understand that the funding supporting this Part 8 is reliant on encouraging walking and cycling, and we would like it clearly understood that we are supportive of these measures. We would also like to acknowledge that the parking on the R761 is a grey area with multiple government employees and officials having differing opinions of the legality of it. The Wayside Inn is a historical building in Killincarrig, and the residents there have been parking in front of their home long enough to consider it established parking. This area has also served the businesses and nearby residents in the area, and we have come to heavily rely on it as there is limited parking elsewhere. Surely there are design solutions that can be explored where both vehicle, bike, and pedestrian can coexist in this space.
Parking that is currently occurring along the southern section of the scheme is illegal.
Killincarrig In Full Bloom 20FEB17
A pedestrian crossing is included to the south of Carrig Orchard Estate.
